Muud Kipz
Elevated Technologies
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:03:00 -
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I've been having tons of fun with trololo-Halo-style shotty/snipes and shotty/TAC builds. Shotty/LR works too. Basically, bait them in with your obviously mid to long range limited gun, then sit behind a corner as everyone and their mother comes for your big red heavy suit, which, surprise, is holding a shotgun!
Proto suit isn't nearly worth it though, IMO the commando is a for fun only suit, meant to be run at STD for people who want to troll DS3 users with superior KB/M gun game and the perfect weapon for both short and mid (or mid and long) ranges.
The main factor (in my brief play experience) that limits the commando is its abysmal shield recharge rate. 10/second is ridiculously bad. I was hoping for a suit the laid heavy penalties on me but rewarded excellent gun game- instead, any clash with an AR has me retreating for 30 seconds while my shields recover. Terrible shield recharge rate, with no slots for armor reppers or recharge boosting, leaves the commando (arguably even at proto level) more fragile (in terms of the kill->recover bounce cycle) than a starter C-1 assault fit.
To fellow trollmandos: always run with a compact nanohive, 50hp/s self rep once per clone for minimal pg/cpu and ~900ISK really helps.
TL;DR: it's a terrible suit that's fun to troll with. Definitely deserves to be in the game, it's not teh hardcorez CalLogi competitive but as a casual player I'm loving it. |
Muud Kipz
Elevated Technologies
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:21:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Muud Kipz wrote:I've been having tons of fun with trololo-Halo-style shotty/snipes and shotty/TAC builds. Shotty/LR works too. Basically, bait them in with your obviously mid to long range limited gun, then sit behind a corner as everyone and their mother comes for your big red heavy suit, which, surprise, is holding a shotgun!
Proto suit isn't nearly worth it though, IMO the commando is a for fun only suit, meant to be run at STD for people who want to troll DS3 users with superior KB/M gun game and the perfect weapon for both short and mid (or mid and long) ranges.
The main factor (in my brief play experience) that limits the commando is its abysmal shield recharge rate. 10/second is ridiculously bad. I was hoping for a suit the laid heavy penalties on me but rewarded excellent gun game- instead, any clash with an AR has me retreating for 30 seconds while my shields recover. Terrible shield recharge rate, with no slots for armor reppers or recharge boosting, leaves the commando (arguably even at proto level) more fragile (in terms of the kill->recover bounce cycle) than a starter C-1 assault fit.
To fellow trollmandos: always run with a compact nanohive, 50hp/s self rep once per clone for minimal pg/cpu and ~900ISK really helps.
TL;DR: it's a terrible suit that's fun to troll with. Definitely deserves to be in the game, it's not teh hardcorez CalLogi competitive but as a casual player I'm loving it. The following isn't intended to be offensive, but . . . . you're playing it wrong. This is a heavy suit. You don't move as far as medium suits and you have the largest hitbox. You shouldn't be baiting people into 1v1 close combat with you. You should be rolling with teammates and sort of be the suppressing fire while not making yourself the primary target. And ok, who am I to tell you how to play a game, but you said it yourself that the 10/second is ridiculous. Perhaps you should of drawn the conclusion that this suit is not meant for going off and doing your own thing rambo style but rather being a versatile asset to a squad.
No argument there- I'm not playing the commando as it was intended, because it's not good enough to fill its "intended" role. That's what makes my commando playstyle trollish. The "intended" playstyle of the commando is not best achieved by the commando. Light weapons only means that the commando's suppressing fire (at any given instant) is the same as an assault/logi suit. The (at proto) 25% reload speed bonus lets you start shooting again ~.5 seconds sooner, but that's just not that great. In terms of rolling with a squad, the heavy movespeed and gimped shield recharge mean that you're inevitably behind or slowing down your squad's battle flow. The only even mildly useful thing is AR/Swarm (or SCR/Swarm, whatever/Swarm) setups, but even that gets outclassed by Swarm/FP assault.
Basically, while my commando playstyle is definitely "wrong", the "right" way of playing the commando is UP in the extreme. leaving troll shotgun commados as the most fun/satisfying option. |